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Chapter 8 : Dissociated and Associated[]
2 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
317. Matter aggregate is dissociated from these states. With how
many aggregates, with how many bases and with how many elements
are those states associated ? With none (1).
318. Feeling aggregate is dissociated from these states ;
Perception aggregate ; Mental formation aggregate ; Consciousness
aggregate . . . States which are causes of lamentation ; States which are
not causes of lamentation are dissociated from these states.
With how many aggregates, with how many bases and with how
many elements are those states associated ? With none (323).
Mnemonic
Cognizable base, cognizable element, again life faculty, mentality materiality.
Six bases, birth, ageing, death, two triplets. Those states are not
included.
Seven states from the first lesser intermediate couplets, ten clusters.
Again fourteen greater-intermediate couplets, six last couplets.
These also are not included. All these forty-seven states are not
included in this negative Chapter together with Chapter 14.
Explanation of the Methods and Charts of Chapters VIII and XIV
Subject matter : 324 states which are dissociated by planes, by
classes, by times and by continuity form the subject matter of these
two chapters. Here the states that are dissociated from the state
of enquiry and the states that are associated with the above
dissociated states are considered. This method can be applied only
to states that are pure materiality, Nibbana and mental aggregates
and to those states which involve both materiality and mentality
but are dissociated. Out of the 324 states, 97 belong to the internal
and 227 to the external states of enquiry.
All the states of enquiry are not mentioned in Chapter VIII
which has only 2 questions and answers. The reason is that all of
them give the same negative answer, i.e. “ with none ” . However,
they are mentioned in Chapter XIV to which reference can be made
Some of them have been included here so as to show clearly the
states that are taken as “ these states
Dissociated states : Suffering truth and supramundane mental
groupings are dissociated by planes. The 9 great becomings are
taken as “ these states ” in turns because they are also dissociated
by planes. But as explained in Chapter VI, since materiality and
materiality are not dissociated, when percepted becoming is the
state of enquiry, non-percepted becoming cannot be taken as
“ these states ” . So also with five-aggregate becoming, one-aggre gate
becoming cannot be taken as “ these states ” . However, with
pure mentality as the state of enquiry such as four-aggregate
becoming and neither perception nor non-perception becoming,
non-percepted becoming and one-aggregate becoming, which are
pure materiality, are respectively taken as “ these states ” .
“ These states ” : The rules for determining “ these states ” are
as follows :—
1. When materiality or Nibbana is the state of enquiry, the
dissociated 4 mental aggregates are taken as “ these states ” and
later as “ those states ” . Since the latter have no associated states,
the answer is “ with none ” .
2. With mental factors such as feeling aggregate and so on
which are associated with all kinds of consciousness and with 89 types
of consciousness such as consciousness aggregate, the dissociated
states, materiality and Nibbana are taken as “ these states ” .
3. With mental factors such as Origin truth and so on which
are not associated with all kinds of consciousness and with one of the
7 consciousness elements such as eye-consciousness element and so
on, the dissociated mentality, together with materiality and Nibbana
are taken as “ these states ” . (Origin truth, which is greed, and hate
or delusion are dissociated by class).
4. With rebirth becoming where both materiality and mentality
are involved, the dissociated mental states are taken as “ these
states ” .
How to read the Chart: Matter aggregate is taken as illustration.
Matter aggregate is dissociated from these states (4 mental aggregates).
With how many aggregates, with how many bases and with
how many elements are those states (4 mental aggregates)
associated ? With none.
The kinds of answers : They are all the same, i.e. “ with none ”
Chapter XIV
Here the states that are dissociated from the state of enquiry as in
Chapter VIII are classified and unclassified under the aggregates,
bases and elements. The asterisk shows that Nibbana is not classified
under the aggregates.
How to read the Chart; Matter aggregate is taken as illustration.
Matter aggregate is dissociated from these states (4 mental aggregates).
Under how many aggregates, under how many bases and
under how many elements are those states (4 mental aggregates)
classified ? They are classified under 4 aggregates (feeling, perception,
mental formation and consciousness aggregates), under 2 bases
(cognizable base and mind base) and under 8 elements (cognizable
element and 7 consciousness elements).
Under how many are they (4 mental aggregates) not classified ?
They are not classified under 1 aggregate (matter aggregate), under
10 bases (10 gross bases) and under 10 elements (10 gross elements).
The kinds of answers : There are 9 kinds of answers. The numbers
of states o f enquiry having the same answers are given below :-
Question Numbers |
No. of States |
1. 456 (1), 458 (20), 462 (8), 470 (4), 478 (4), 487 (2), 491 (10) 469 (6), 500 (2), 510 (10), 503 (2), 505 (5), 507 (2) 509 (2), 516 (3) |
81
|
2. 457 (6). 466 (3), 472 (6), 504 (8) |
23 |
3. 459 (7), 473 (1), 481 (1), 512 (2) |
11 |
4. 460 (1), 475 (1), 480 (1), 486 (5), 490 (2), 495 (3), 497 (1) 499 (4), 501 (20), 502 (4), 507 (4), 508 (5), 511 (4), 515 (3) 518 (5) |
63 |
5. 461 (2), 463 (4), 465 (10), 467 (3), 471 (16), 474 (4), 477 (2) 482 (3), 485 (9), 489 (8), 492 (4), 494 (8), 498 (5), 501 (28), 507 (13), 510 (4), 513 (3), 517 (5) |
131 |
6. 464 (1), 476 (2), 484 (1), 514 (1) |
5 |
7. 468 (3), 479 (1), 483 (1), 506 (1) |
6 |
8. 469 ( 1 ) |
1 |
9. 488 (1), 493 ( 2 ) |
3 |
|
Total 324 |